no school this week again

Dears,

As you may know now
The school will remain closed this week.
However we are still evaluating your work, through your submission on the blog.
Tomorrow, everyone has to post an update of their work (before midnight).

I propose to meet with whoever is interested at TCDC or BACC tomorrow afternoon.
Let me know if you can make it.

Best wishes

Khim: Object Container Question

Dear Ajarn Camillee,

According to the last comment, I mentioned that I will try to find a way to get the materials (Korean Clay), but the situation around my house has now gotten worse. The water level has raised by 20cm in 3 days and the total water level around my area is approximately 60 cm. I couldn't get out of the house at all in the current situation and got stuck within the house for more than 3 days now.

What I have left is 2 bags of red clay and 1 bag of white clay. The black clay has been used up (due to the prototype).

To make the previous prototype, I needed 3 bags of black clay, and I found out that they are barely enough to make the tomb.

The question is that, can I use the red and white clay to make the canopic jars (the separate containers that are used to preserve the organs) and attach it to the prototype container instead of making a completely new one?

Of course, I won't simply attach it just like that, but will try to merge it so that they won't look so out of place.

The clay won't be enough if I remade all of them again, and the other material I've got is a Chaan-ooy paper which doesn't seem to be suitable for the role at all. Chaan-ooy would make the tomb look too stiff and it couldn't be carved to make the timeline on the tomb.

I'm hoping for the water level to go down so that I can go out and buy the materials I lack, but it seems that the water level has continuously gone up by day.

If this is possible, I will start drawing possible designs for the attachments to the tomb, post it on the blog (in case any changes needs to be made to the design) then start making the real one.

Best Regards,

Khim

answer to Mim

Great material investigation (for memory and materials, you might also be interested in shape-memory materials)!


However i am not really sure about the direction you took and the outcome you have now...

First question: why would the container not operated when the doorknob is fixed on a door?

Then, our nervous system does not control our memory but triggers it. If you are interested in this subject, you must do further research to have something operative and not simply figurative.

And finally the cultural, familial aspects (of possession, of the idea of a home) and most importantly the idea of scale, and the possible micro-worlds we talked about during the review seem to be forgotten here.
...the inherent symbolic aspect of the doorknob as the access to privacy...

Materials

Since we're going to try molding the container, I was running out of ideas on what to use as the casting material. Perhaps you have any suggesting?

I tried finding liquid rubber like Kanoon but all the shops I've been to is out of stock.

I'm trying to find somewhere to buy liquid silicone rubber but so success so far.

Perhaps we should find a new way of fabrication? Since the doll's method was rotational molding, it actually requires machine and an oven; both of which I do not have access to. I'm a little stumped here and would love to hear any suggestions from you. Thank you!

dry house offer

Dears,

If you, your family, friends or anyone you know is looking for a dry place to stay in Bangkok, i am about to start renting a shop-house on soi Trok Saphan Yao, near the memorial bridge,
here on the map

Yes it is located just by the river but so far the street is not flooded, and at least 3 entire floors will remain dry (then the problem would be access)

Please let me know if this can be of any help.

answer to Penpen

I particularly like the idea of the memory container (it reminds me of the film Memento, where the main character is amnesiac and tatoos notes on his own body to be able to know what he has to do - to have a sort of continuity in his life... maybe you should watch it, it is very easy to find)


But this memory needs to be organized, 
it could form stories, as in the first example,


it could even be coded,
as in your second proposal
...


In any case, you need to start researching about memory, the way it functions, the ways and devices people (from the invention of language) have imagined...
Research on the art of memory. A practice developed during the middle ages.
...the memory theater by Guilio Camillio...
Your container could expand both in ambition and in size...


The code is a very interesting idea. It could be applied as well within the development of your memory container.
By the way have you looked at Sam Winston's work?

Pik's ideas

Kanoon's 2nd Experiment

Experiment with Rubber Liquid

It is 100 cc bottle of (,I don't know what they called, so I ended up by calling it,) Rubber Liquid :D The liquid is not very sticky as I thought , so what we can do is to paint a thin layer of it on some surface and wait unit it's dry.

After I painted it on Chaan-oy for 1 layer, it's sticky like a rubber!

Then I continued for about 4-5 times...

It seems thicker and surely waterproof like rubber, then I tried with another material: the plastic bottle.

Only 1 layer of it is a bit thin..It's like a skin when I tried to remove it out of the bottle, it rolled and ended up being like...

.. A rubber band!! XD

I thought that's because the layer of rubber is not thick enough so I tried more.

(note: When I'm going to paint a new later of rubber liquid, I need to make sure that the older layer is completely dry --according to label of the rubber liquid's bottle)

This time I tried to carefully remove it, but as soon as they touched each other.... it'd all gone D':

I tried to separate it out but also as soon as they touched each other... (like a loop..)

(note: while it is sticky to itself so much, unlike glue, it doesn't seem to stick to our hands or any materials.)

Like a big rubber band, doesn't it?


From the experiment, I think of the idea that I could use the rubber liquid as a waterproof-coat for another materials, like Chaan-oy, or cardboard paper... so what do you think?


PS. Thank you for the comments, and about the film.. I have looked its trailer on youtube and couldn't help saying "what??", it looks real mad, doesn't it? haha I will try to watch it, my internet is very slow, I also do not know why.

mim's message

aj camil, mim is wondering if she and you could meet in person for a quick discussion?

title container

maybe made out of wood then cover with leather to make it stronger and water proof. Protect users hand from heat

Khim: Container Models

Container Models

1

"The Mummy Mouse & Tomb"

The Mummy

I researched about the Egyptian rituals, and found out something interesting: they said that when a person is to be mummified, his internal organs are taken out to be preserved except for the heart. The tomb, in total, usually have 3 layers. So I applied that to the container — separating the cover of the mouse from its body, leaving the circuits inside as the circuit is believed to be the mouse's "heart".

To link this together, I joined the bandages together (with a black cardboard inside for stability). The cord of the mouse is placed inside of the connecting bandages.

CONCEPT:

The cord represents the soul of the mouse: it is connected to "its heart (the circuit)" while also linking back to the bandages that were used to wrap around its body in order to form a "mummy". This represents sealing, where the soul of the medium is kept and contained by the bandages — its soul is entwined to its body, resting ("dead").

The Tomb

I also found out that on the tomb, the appearance of the dead person is drawn so that when that person "comes back to life", he or she will then be able to return to their own body again. Their soul is accompanied by the visual image carved on the tomb. I find this really interesting since it matches the fact that, suppose the mouse is dead, there might be someone who wishes for it to come back: like the mummy, though none of them have actually come back to life until now. That is why I decided to draw the internals of the mouse on the tomb's cover.

In addition, while the actual tomb will have the carvings of the protecting Gods and the person's "next life", the mouse's tomb is carved with the historical appearances of the mouse (since the first one, in 1964).

Under the cover of the second layer, there is also the "back view" of the circuit carved on.

On the bottom of the third layer, there is a blessing (the actual one is in Egypt, but to match with the mouse, I used English with a different quote) written:

"May Your Soul Rest in Piece."

(Yes, it is PIECE, as in pieces of the mouse)

THE OVERALL IDEA:

The mummification, relating to being the medium that awaits a person's soul to come back to life (or sometimes going to the next life), matches the idea of the mouse which was supposedly (going to be) dead. The tomb is like a medium that reminds us of the mouse, while the bandage container is "part of the mouse itself (its cord) restraining its body". This implies that, the cord, is no longer the center of popularity, and it became dead, technologically because of the touch-pads.

2

"His Life is In My Hand"

It's the idea that our hands itself is a container, especially nowadays when the number of people who seem to be moving cursors on the screen via fingers (touch-pads) are increasing rapidly. Touch screens do not need to be "hold", unlike the optical mouse.

This is the container used to make our hands "the container". It allows the mouse to be carried around without the needs to "hold" it. It comfortably sticks to your hand.

The container is made up of two gloves glued together on the edges with a space in the middle to push an object in.

Carrying it around like this, the mouse could not be used. It could be used if it's desired to be, but its life is in the owner's hand, it could still be usefull, or remain completely useless. Technology is there, but if we insists not to use it, then it's not of use. "This" mouse is then technologically dead.

3

"Carry On"

More like a cheerful concept regarding the death of the mouse.

Eventhough carrying a mouse independently is more difficult than the touch-pads which came with the laptops, some people enjoy using it anyway. Like fashion, people sticks to it for a while, then when a new season arrives, they goes with the flow.

"Eventhough it's going to be gone, life needs to carry on."

And so directly, the mouse carries on. (Though it looks dead there.)

3.5

"Failed Attempts"

The rolling mouse could not flipped over. It got stuck half way through.

It needs weight to flip over, but if too much weight it used on one side, the container will just stand (stably) on that side.

If the weight is too light, then nothing will happen at all.

The materials used needs to be strong enough to be able to bear the force of the falling mouse, with curves for the rotating effect and just enough weight for the container to flip over. It became a bit difficult with the cable of the mouse, since it will need to be stick to the mouse's body or else it will travel all over the place when the mouse is dropped down.

The only material I have left other than wood sticks, thin cardboard papers and korean clay is a PVC sheet. It's not strong enough, but I don't have any choice left. So I tried doing a prototype with it, and the container broke down.

Container v.2

So this time is a combination of the 1st and 2nd idea

The idea of containing a living thing yet still nightmarish.

So the materials used would be some bendable plastic sheets? Or perhaps water bottles but those are being used for making boats/storing water for the flood. So I fear there's a scarcity. The reason I want it clear is to see the growth inside.

It'll be made into 'limbs' that can connect into a central 'body'. Both the limbs an body are dotted with holes for future monstrification. A smaller part (I'll call 'fingers') can be attached into the holes.

For this, I'm concentrating on the fact that the doll parts and be removed and rejoined in different ways.

Nextly, a trailing plant will be inserted to grow inside. As it grows, it would come out of the limb/finger openings. This would further the monstrification and horrification of the container. We can control (and contain) the plant by choosing which holes to close and/or to extend with a 'finger'

So this container will contain the plant (and in a way, fear?)

My only concern for it right now is the materials used and whether the plant will grow fast enough. Its hard to travel out of my house for now so I have not had the chance to gather materials.

P.S. Maybe we can try it with hamsters?

mim's container