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Khim: Object Container Question

Dear Ajarn Camillee,



According to the last comment, I mentioned that I will try to find a way to get the materials (Korean Clay), but the situation around my house has now gotten worse. The water level has raised by 20cm in 3 days and the total water level around my area is approximately 60 cm. I couldn't get out of the house at all in the current situation and got stuck within the house for more than 3 days now.

What I have left is 2 bags of red clay and 1 bag of white clay. The black clay has been used up (due to the prototype).

To make the previous prototype, I needed 3 bags of black clay, and I found out that they are barely enough to make the tomb.



The question is that, can I use the red and white clay to make the canopic jars (the separate containers that are used to preserve the organs) and attach it to the prototype container instead of making a completely new one?



Of course, I won't simply attach it just like that, but will try to merge it so that they won't look so out of place.

The clay won't be enough if I remade all of them again, and the other material I've got is a Chaan-ooy paper which doesn't seem to be suitable for the role at all. Chaan-ooy would make the tomb look too stiff and it couldn't be carved to make the timeline on the tomb.

I'm hoping for the water level to go down so that I can go out and buy the materials I lack, but it seems that the water level has continuously gone up by day.

If this is possible, I will start drawing possible designs for the attachments to the tomb, post it on the blog (in case any changes needs to be made to the design) then start making the real one.



Best Regards,
Khim

4 comments:

  1. Yes, and this is valid for all of you...
    The project is in two parts: the drawings and the actual container.
    The drawings should not simply be representation of the container.
    Instead they should belong to another dimension, they should vehiculate another dimension...
    They should be in a dialogue with the object and container, they should work together to portray this world you are creating

    Thus the drawings are as important as the making I the container, they will carry your project (they are not side documents but entirely part of the design.


    In your case khim

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  2. (was blocked for some reason)
    So in your case, starting to imagine this container through drawing is a good idea for the time being - (and necessary for the project!) youcan also use chanoy, I don't think it would be much of a problem and i believe this material as well would suit your ideas, it all depend on how you treat it, how far you transform it...
    And chanoy can be carved
    Maybe it would even be more interesting, less obvious, to use chanoy ...

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  3. What I'm still confuse is that, can I use the "prototype" as the real container by adding some more parts to the prototype?

    We are supposed to have 3 prototypes and 1 real container, but I ran out of material, so I'd like to ask whether I could transform one of those three prototypes into the real container and make another prototype using chan-ooy to substitute for the old one instead (this means, the prototype will be made with chan-ooy but the real container will be the one I've posted before with some parts added to it).

    Chan-ooy can be carved, but not as visible as the Korean Clay. I tried to carve it using a cutter and it looks really stiff; the lines are too light, but if I press it too hard, the chan-ooy will get cut off completely. That's one of the reason, but the main reason is that so many people chooses chan-ooy as their material, and I kind of wanted to be different (haha). I feel that it's not challenging enough to use the same material as others, especially when chan-ooy is a very popular one...

    Korean Clay is very light-weighted as well (as light as the one Poom did for his mango for the Castings in DesignTS1), so I think it'd be interesting if something that looks heavy is actually light when hold, like how the mummy's body is very light because it got dehydrated.

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  4. Dear Khim

    Point by point:

    -1 For me, you could have 20 prototypes, and not even a "real" one, or 4 "real" ones which could work on different points.... I think it would be very absurd now to fake a prototype - if it is not a research, if it does not inform the "real" container, then there is no point in doing an additional prototype.

    -2 YEs the korean clay is a wonderful material and it would be fantastic if you could get some more in order to continue working with it (i still think the container you produced earlier is not worked out yet).
    This said, there is really no reason to stand against chan-ooy, i totally understand that you want your work to be different - but then look at the way most students use chan-ooy: completely conventionally, with no imagination (nobody uses it in thin layers to create non-planar surfaces, nobody tries liquid on it, burning its edges, scratching it)... Being different is also using the same material as others, but transcending it - not following the established rules on what it is supposed to do. That makes an even more remarkable difference than being able to buy the coolest material.

    This said, if you really have an aversion to this material, find another one you in your house but do not make a fake prototype!!

    Best of luck!

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